That scenario would have created a lot of edge, suspense and sadness without killing a character for clout. knew it would happen before the end of this drama: line 7, strike TTC and insert TCC. She meets with Minister Shin, upset about how things went this morning, because when Prince Jin-pyung dies his soldiers will be demotivated. Yup, I concur with all your points, @marcusnyc20 bong-soo. Not king and the clown. The ending is meh.. Let me say it again. Speaking of Haksan- Haksan killed the king. I just discovered in Merriam-Webster that the oft used kdrama translated word punk is a synonym for beginner!) The people's hero Woo Do-hwan is MBC's Joseon Lawyer, First look at Kim Seo-hyung in ENA's Paper Moon, Drama viewership ratings for the week of Feb. 20-26, 2023. They didn't really expose that at the beginning. After all if the really great episodes the ending was puzzling. But I'm still not sure how the Queen managed to stop feeling guilty over her initially inadvertent betrayal of Yi Heon. So-woon had refused to accept it until theyd given her the compass, which theyd found next to Moo-youngs body. Thats not all though as we soon find out. He reminds us that to be a man is to make mistakes, to laugh and fool around. The uncanny, period-inappropriate costumes, hairstyles, makeup and actors turned me off right at the VERY beginning of the drama. But I dont know the Clown. that is not a given that's how it's scripted for sure. @lovepark, I agree with you, especially with regard to: it was a bold move for the show to have Lee Kyu kill the king in secret and become the "king" from the shadows. Because whoever Yi Heon was, according to the makers of this show, no longer matters. But to create a 'bad' end then rush a 'good' one without solid backing feels weird. And this show started out like that. Add it to the list of things that are harder to believe than time travel and zombies Yoo In-Na's cuteness in Touch Your Heart. I bitched about this on my fan wall, but I'm so pissed I'll repeat myself. Two years pass, then HS shows up talking about how much time had passed when he woke up. We just want better developed characters with a clearer plot and an ending that is believable. js = d.createElement(s); js.id = id; I liked seeing the leads, the romance was sweet to the point of unbelievable, but what the heck. I was glad that Ho-sun and the Queen finally got together but the ending sounded more eternal due to the mist and not quite earthy. I was lucky, it was so beautiful about music, acting, costumes, and I appreciated that there was balance between politics and romance. Unfortunately, the drama version ending didn't give us much closure and added more questions that needed to be answer. Speaking of Haksan- Haksan killed the king. I dont understand where he was for 2 years, This outstanding! And then the Clown and his Queen live happily ever after, after the Clown suddenly abdicates after having a COMPLETE change in behaviour and personality I might add, that nobody frakking realises. And it was filled with MLSHR comments!) And I almost didnt even watch the reunion scene at the end because I knew exactly how it would play out. An emotional farewell with Eunuch Jo (now Royal Secretary Jo) ensues and Ha Sun leaves the palace for good, following after So Woon who left the palace just before he did. Still beautiful though. However, I find myself not caring so much. Honestly, its not even the underlying moral issues that are never addressed by this show, although sure they annoy me on a personal level, and I have argued about them till Kingdom come; its that a core ingredient for plot and character was just IGNORED in order for them to try and push the story they wanted to tell. But we are inevitably always going to reach an impasse @shaani. Ho-geol requests some time off, so Ha Sun suggests he take a working vacation to Jeju Island to see how the people like the new law, which is obviously not what Ho-geol had in mind. Me, too. What was the point? And nobody found out the Clown wasnt the King because the King is dead. And nobody likes him anyway, right? Minister Lee. I had to chuckle over his interpretation of Ha Sun's name ("summer fairy"). To show how good and righteous the Clown was? There's no fault in loving faulty things, but you have to see them for what they actually are. Firstly, shouldnt the King have been escorted out to safety in the event that people who were waiting to attack him would have? The Crowned Clown 2019 | Maturity Rating: TV-14 | 1 Season | Period Pieces Standing in for an unhinged Joseon king, a look-alike clown plays the part but increasingly becomes devoted to protecting the throne and the people. At a couple of points in the past two years, I was simultaneously live-watching 9-10 dramas along with older shows and films. Ha Sun says he has a lot more reading to do and sends Eunuch Jo on to bed, but later So-woon finds him asleep on the table. Episode 9, titled Couple 31, follows the consequences of the interview, as Charles and Diana finally give in to divorce. My mind has a mind of its own, and it's like herding cats. . Episode 1 King Seonjo dies, and his fears about the fate of his youngest son Prince Yul come true when his successor Yi Heon (Gwanghae-gun) orders Prince Yul's arrest for treason. And its not because I didnt get the ending that I wanted that makes me sad. I can't handle 2 or more at a time and it makes me sad when they compete for the ratings. I dropped this drama once Yi Heon died, but have been keeping up with recaps only to be disappointed with what the writers have been doing every episode. I hate the use of the magic random separation time generator, ( henceforth referred to as the CRM-114 Discriminator ), as its license for the writer to just make up any old thing, the off screen magic that takes place helps tidy things up, loose plot lines melt away, (or not), in the last five minutes. window.fbAsyncInit = function() { The bad points : I'm not a fan of too much flashbacks, but in this case I think it would have been useful for the story, the end with jump in the future. Like I said, it's a fairly good and fairly solid Sageuk, preserving at least the "vibe" you expect from a Sageuk. The clown scoffs at everything serious in the world, he is cynical and uses humor to show people that they are too serious. And he shouldve been. 2/4 He takes the throne and the queen dowager looks frightened, but shes relieved when Lord Younghwa, her choice for king, also enters the room. In re-reading the ep. 2. One that is like a wolf trying to be a sheep and telling everyone that it is a sheep, when its actually still a wolf. Btw, it's wonderful to see you back on the comment section <3. Ha Sun kept his nose to the grindstone, and lined up a successor. The Queen- The Clown saved the Queen, thus the Queen forgave him, and then also abandoned the King as a pre existing character. And then they walk off into the sunset andwhat? I'm gonna stick to my version, the ending of this series was right after he installed the Tax Law. appId : '127538621120543', Excellent performance by Kim Sang-kyung. The end was quite disapointing, I mean the jump in the future was useless. Inconsistencies are there but being able to create a good show that MOST people clearly enjoyed was thanks to the people behind it. The character had reached the point of no return and the "goings-comings" between the Palace and the outside would have been boring. I enjoyed the it. We got to see one measly flashback of Yi Heon and the Queen early in their marriage before he started going off the deep end. Chief Royal Secretary is dead. 3.1/4 Again, why? In this video, we give a full ending expla. Do not base it on a doppelganger trope, only to IGNORE the implications and potential and importance of that doppelganger trope. I was not expecting his remaining foes, Daebi and Lord Shin, to lose their mojo or get a group rate on lobotomies. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. }; Why kill officer Jang So random. Gapsu raised the two kids but how did that happen? A verification email has been sent to your new email address. Showing Haksan in such slow-motion looked a bit off to me. But from what I gather, they didn't. Like you I would have liked to know more of the Lord Gil Sam Bong affair. The entire thing? The Crown is a historical drama streaming television series about the reign of Queen Elizabeth II, created and principally written by Peter Morgan, and produced by Left Bank Pictures and Sony Pictures Television for Netflix.Morgan developed it from his drama film The Queen (2006) and especially his stage play The Audience (2013). Its not even just that, its poorly constructed as a concept, let alone a written piece. B) He's attacked and left for dead. I'm still trying to catch up with HAECHI. (Cant remember if I read all of your wall before you broke DB, but still *nods*. My thoughts are the queen died of a broken heart when she learned the king was dead. He promises that hell never become an animal who uses his power for personal gain, and that hell do whats right even when hes scared. Rather than be daring, some parts felt more sensational than meaningful. Unanswered questions. I just wanted the man to be happy. The survival of the great majority allows everything? On the other hand, MLSHR is QUITE the viewing experience, and I do NOT regret the time I spent on it al ALL even though it was crappy. Did you read my essay? Irrelevant time frame. Because they do make sense. I enjoyed this more than most of the sageuks I've seen. It helps to know that I am not the only one who struggled live watching two sageuks at the same time. Not fond of separation endings. Was she too pure to have sex? I personally think they could have used the King's death and still told an interesting and important story. Why even give us Yi Heon as a character with a backstory to begin with if youre just going to do that to him. I've watched enough sageuks to understand the ethos even if I don't always personally agree with it, and am disturbed when social conventions and obligations of earlier historical periods are flouted, or treated as if they don't exist. Im glad it was 16 episodes. @kurama, What a load of crap! Heh. Since Writer-nim didn't bother to reveal who patched up Ha Sun and kept him safe while he recovered, I'll fill in the blanks by assuming that he somehow ended up in the care of Doctor Monk. This probably means I have to watch "Vincenzo" to find out what Kim Hee-won's visual style is.) When I thought it couldnt get worse, it did. He was responsible for the Queen Dowagers, Shin Chi Soo and the Princes deaths, plus the real King was a complete madman who was responsible for the Queen Dowagers fathers death and his half brothers death and many other atrocious things. The acting was superb, the scenery was beautiful and the story was different from its source material. She asks the little girl where she learned to make a wish like that, and the girl says a man who was passing by taught her. . We learn that the soldiers who arrived just in time were General Kims, Lord Yoos old friend. It signalled me that it's highly probable he doesn't have enough control over the other departments either, which are Plot Consistency, Believability and Execution. It turns out to be a trap though that he walks right into. It's an interesting interpretation, but I prefer them alive :). Starring: Yeo Jin-goo, Lee Se-young, Kim Sang-kyung Creators: Kim Hee-won, Kim Seon-deok, Shin Ha-eun Watch all you want. Please enlighten us. Working myself into a lather wasn't good for me. But the Clown woke him up and he realized he could do good for korean people. Thank you, Peony, I'll give a look if I have time. And its not ministers its just one minister, others didn't want to believe it. What if she had killed herself in that field and seeing him was an illusion? It aired simultaneously with PBG's Moonlight Drawn by Clouds (MLDBC). Then the death of Officer Jang and the unnecessary pain the Queen had to go through while grieving for Hasun. Ha Sun receives a message that the border situation has turned dangerous and Aisin Gurun may attack, since they never received Minister Lees peace letter. And it's this point that made the drama very interesting. And the drama did well as well. So many relationships were built up during the tumultuous happenings just to do this :/. :) He should have walked away, been protected by the officer, who would then accompany him as he returned to the village incognito to meet up with his sister and the queen. <- this is exactly what I was expecting. ;-). They tell the story of a king who was as handsome as he was wise, and whose greatest talent was looking out for his people. The final scene in the grassland was beautiful. No one would let a lowborn guy like him to rule if he was not able to fool everyone to think he is the king. He can only be as abusive or violent or lost or addicted to drugs as his writing allows. The last 15mins is just drama just for the sake of drama. Sorry if I might be nitpicking, but along with Jang's death, I even felt betrayed by So Woon's initial reaction to Ha Sun. He stands before Minister Lees casket one last time, remembering his friend saying that he taught him about the importance of trust and bowing to him as his king. 4 Jul 2021. To all the above comments: The problem is that the rebels have almost ten times the number of soldiers as Ha Sun, so Moo-young suggests that he smuggle Ha Sun and So-woon out of the palace. All I ever wanted for Ha Sun and So-woon was for them to live a normal life like normal people, and they got exactly what they deserved each other. This does not mean you cannot enjoy it. I neglected to state that Jin-goo's performances were great, and that Kim Sang-kyung is a new favorite. Tags: Lee Se-young, The Crowned Clown, Yeo Jin-gu, Your email address will not be published. Woon-shim is allowed to say goodbye, and she sobs that she thought they would finally be together. Suspension of Disbelief. there could have been a slight nod to MASQUERADE by perhaps having Ha-seon and So-woon leaving on a vessel pulling from shore with maybe Moo-young on shore making a bow; Thats all. I think @kiara tipped me off about it. They showed a lot of "dream-like" features for that last scene in particular which suggested how they both died and are actually meeting at the after life : ( ( ( (. And had so much fun. }; Heyena. To me this drama was about Haksan and his quest to get the Dadong tax law passed. I also hated that the poor mom who had his son killed by the previous king had no retribution at all. var js, fjs = d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0]; Prolly will make the beeeest drama with 0 plotholes and AMAZING storyline. She showed no remorse for him being gone after that point. For a doppelganger Clown to become King, the King must already exist as a character. The grindstone, and that Kim Sang-kyung Creators: Kim Hee-won, Kim Seon-deok, Shin Ha-eun watch you... 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