We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration. Can you tell us a little bit about this poem before you read it? Garden of Eden by Tracy K. Smith What a profound longing I feel, just this very instant, For the Garden of Eden On Montague Street Where I seldom shopped, I think the topic has also just come up much more frequently and relentlessly in the years since Trayvon Martins murder.WASHINGTON SQUARE: Another subject you grapple with in Ordinary Light is belief in God. Where I seldom shopped, sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our, In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for. I'd squint into it, or close my eyes Tracy K. Smith has her head in the stars. I know that her poems inspired some of my own, if even only in tone. WASHINGTON SQUARE: Across all four of your collections, many poems speak through personae. SMITH: The books have a lot in common. But translating is a different thing altogether. But that isnt enough, and so I am also listening for clues in the sounds of what I have already said that might help me determine what to say next. The couplet looped in my head for weeks, and when I finally resorted to Google, I learned it was from Smiths first collection, The Bodys Question.I borrowed her books from the library and found them full of lines like the ones that had hooked me. She lives with her husband in Chicago. Smith received the 2012 Pulitzer Prize in poetry for her third book of poems, Life on Mars (Graywolf Press, 2011). Film awards like the Oscars often have a best-animated film category, and this is dumb. Race is one of the chief subjects of Wade in the Water, a site wherein my wish to contemplate the elusive nature of compassion gets played out. Pomegranate, persimmon, quince! I think it urges the viewer to submit to the terms and values of the subjects rather than cling to any pre-existing sense of what dignity or autonomy ought to look like. She joins me now from Princeton University, where she teaches creative writing. rife with music, rhyme, and repetition. And as many have observed since capitalism emerged (see William Blakes Satanic mills or Upton Sinclairs meatpacking plants), this tends to have baleful effects on how we conceive of social relationships and our own selves. Actually, the first poem in Wade in the Water, its called Garden of Eden and it is shockingly about shopping, in a sense. Capital exerts its violence against nature and the people who are part of it. Bank-balance math and counting days. Tracy K. Smith: Hi, thanks for having me. Copyright 2008 - 2023 . Our repeated Smith works like a novelist, curating the national tongue. Unlike a lot of other poets I was looking at, she has a certain flavor that just really fit to my taste. In a technique that feels like the opposite of erasure, I Will Tell You the Truth about This, I Will Tell You All about It accumulates voices from African Americans enlisted in the Civil War, and also from their families. Im Curtis Fox. WebTracy K. Smith was born in Falmouth, Massachusetts, on April 16, 1972, and raised in Fairfield, California. Curtis Fox: That was An Old Story. The first trip was to Sante Fe, New Mexico, to the Santa Fe Indian School and some neighboring pueblos, and I realized this is joy. The ones / Whose wealth is a kind of filth. Lest this ecological connection seem like a stretch, know that environmental disaster haunts Wade in the Water. What do you try to impart as a teacher, and what, if anything, has teaching poetry taught you about writing it? I struggle a lot with interpreting metaphorical words often used by poets and underlying meanings behind small phrases. The last lines of the poems final section point this up with staggering intensity: My full name is Dick Lewis Barnett.I am the applicant for pensionon account of having servedunder the name Lewis Smithwhich was the name I wore beforethe days of slavery were overMy correct name is Hiram Kirkland.Some persons call me Harry and others call me Henrybut neither is my correct name. I suppose those two choices speak to some of the overarching themes I consciously wanted the book to cleave to.WASHINGTON SQUARE: This last comment makes me wonder about your process assembling a book. I thought of to bear witness, as the book itself does, but I also thought to bear unspeakable suffering. My found poems behave differently, but those possibilities were somewhere in my mind as I worked. Heavy lifting, to be sure. Is it strange to say love is a languageFew practice, but all, or near all speak?Even the men in black armor, the onesJangling handcuffs and keys, what elseAre they so buffered against, if not loves bladeSizing up the hearts familiar meat? Ive been sharing work by other American poets, and readings of my own poems as well, and just asking a very simple question, which is, what do you notice? To order a copy for 7.64 go to guardianbookshop.com or call 0330 333 6846. Pessimism hobbles anyone who is paying attention. NCTE, Common Core, & National Core Arts Standards. She was named Poet Laureate of the United States in June 2017 and reappointed to the post for a second term last spring. And for that to be unmitigated. So I did that with this document, and what I found myself doing was deleting the text that was most specific in reference to England, and listening only to the first half, in many cases, of statements. taken Captive For me, the memory of catching a poem in that fashion seeps into the sense of peace the poem contemplates, causing it to feel fleeting, like something it would be easy, if youre not working very deliberately, to lose.WASHINGTON SQUARE: Your poems have a habit of calling chronology into question. A two-time Hambidge fellow, her poems have appeared in such publications as Little Star, Prairie Schooner, december, American Life in Poetry andVerse Daily. Tracy K. Smith was born in Massachusetts and raised in northern California. It was Brooklyn. SMITH: For I Will Tell You the Truth About This I went in search of information about African American soldiers experience in the Civil War. I claim pension under the general law, argues one appellant; (i shall hav to send this with out a stamp / for I haint money enough to buy a stamp), another says in closing his letter to the President (all italics and spellings original).In an endnote Smith refers to such texts as erasure poems, a somewhat ironic term. Curtis Fox: Now you hinted at it, but its an erasure poem. For the Garden of Eden Its current occupant is Tracy K. Smith, who was named Poet Laureate in 2017. Are they something you mostly notice cropping up in poems youve already written, or do they often enter through conscious choices like the ones you describe with Watershed and Eternity?SMITH: I tend to write and bank poems slowly for long stretches of time, and then, when I have the extended time and space, or when my questions become more urgent, I sit down to a season of intense writing. From trees. We are not the isolated commodity seekers that capitalism and its armed enforcers demand we become, but rather all of us must be / / Buried deep within each other (Eternity). WebThe story Garden of Eden introduces the first man and woman that God created. She is a democratic writer, because her project in Wade in the Water is to curate American voices, particularly those of marginalized people, but also her own, and to situate these within the dark sweep of US history, with all its horrors, its anxieties, its potentialities. So the poems change for me too, which is I think affirmation that something real is happening. Poet Laureate of the United States; its a high perch for an American poet to land on. I guess Ive been thinking a lot about mythology. But even, it seemed to answer some of the questions that come up when we talk about this racial divide. But I truly hope its more than that. Like a lot. She studied at Harvard University, where she joined the Dark Room Collective, a reading series for writers of color, created by Sharan Strange in 1988. WASHINGTON SQUARE: Im also curious, hearing about how you created the found poemsare there any poets whose work has inspired or instructed you specifically in this domain of found/collaged poetry, or poetry that incorporates historical source documents?SMITH: I have taught CD Wrights One Big Self, in both the poetry and photography formats, to my students in the past. And maybe thats me speaking as someone in mid life, someone whos the parent of kids and has fears about the future. WebAnalyzes tracy k. smith's "life on mars" as an elegy as a whole with many poems pertaining to death and s struggle with the loss of her father. Her translations of poetry by Yves Bonnefoy include Words in Stone and The Origin of Language. We were almost certain theywere. Dang, you hear those birds? 1 No. The Garden of Eden is a semiautobiographical account based on Hemingways honeymoon with his second wife, Pauline Pfeiffer, in May, 1927, at Le Grau-du-Roi, a fishing village in the Carmargue, on the Mediterranean coast of France. WASHINGTON SQUARE: Im intrigued by the extent to which youve referred to this poem as an autonomous entity: it seems to be voiced, what I read as fear or hesitation. Are there some poems that seem more or less transparent to you, more or less within your understanding and control, than others?SMITH: Oh, sure. / Pomegranate, persimmon, quince!), even though the ultimate act is to be a good consumer and buy things. They do a lot to remind us that we do have things to say to each other, that were interested in one anothers lives and vulnerabilities. I'd squint into it, or close my eyes And let it slam me in the face The known sun setting On the dawning century. the same desolate luxury, people lived paycheck to paycheck, unable to afford such luxuries like exotic fruits or pastries. You know, popular myths that we cleave to as Americans, and there are a lot of poems in this book that have titles that are biblical. Home the paper bags, doing The opening poems of Wade in the Water seem to locate the divine in the worldly, sometimes to humorous effect: God drives around in a jeep, and the Garden of Eden turns out to be a grocery store. The narrow untouched hips. Smith mingles these themes in The World is Your Beautiful Younger Sister, where the body of a woman stands in for the planet itself; Smith plays on old Western conceptions of nature as a female resource to be commanded by men and their technologies. Are there particular questions you think of as driving Wade in the Water?SMITH: For me, poems, no matter how they behave, are questions. And before that, of course, there was the slave empire, a giant system for turning flesh into money. Life on Mars is a very sentimental and intimate book of poems about how an author deals a lost in her life. Would you read it for us? Naomi Shihab Nye is the Young Peoples Poet Laureate of the Poetry Foundation in Chicago. The core of the book, because it was the poem I had written earliest in the process, always seemed to me to be the long Civil War poem, I Will Tell You the Truth About This, I Will Tell You All About It. That poem was commissioned for an exhibition of Civil War photographs at the Smithsonians National Portrait Gallery back in 2013. Email us at [emailprotected], or write a review in Apple Podcasts, and please link to this episode on social media. I will say it flat-out: I do not like poetry. My thirties. Or next to nothing and drops it in the chute. Redress in the most humble terms: Men with interests to protect seduce and extract pleasure from a young person, making her believe / / It was she who gave permission, just as patriarchal industrial capitalism has plundered the youth of mother Earth.Those awful, awful men. Id squint into it and let it slam me in the face-- the known sun setting on the dawning century really stuck with me. WebThis is Tracy K. Smiths America, a lyric insurrection within Donald J. Trumps. Her latest book is Wade In The Water. Its also the title of a poem in the books first section, and it reverberates in images of water throughout the collectionin the poems Watershed and The Everlasting Self, for example. In its nostalgia for the pastries, the exotic fruits, and the black beluga lentils of her past, the poem invokes blessing and abundance, removed in time but newly desired in this moment when we see. I dont yet know how to classify Wade in the Water. Comprehending, and perhaps steering, its history requires love amid the ruins.Unrest in Baton Rouge underscores this. the book in a spiritual key? I carried the wish to write a poem about that story with me for a year-and-a-half. Poetry does not really resonate with me. Every small want, every niggling urge. Can you explain exactly what that means in terms of what you did with the Declaration of Independence? 4 (September 2018). Articulating one would require thinking of others as more than free particles in a market or economic obstacles and opportunities. Smith: That's the only dream like that that I've had. On June 14, 2017, Librarian of Congress Carla Hayden announced the appointment of Tracy K. Smith as the 22nd Poet Laureate Consultant in Poetry. In 2014 she was awarded the Academy of American Poets fellowship. For She has also written a memoir,Ordinary Light(2015), which was a finalist for the National Book Award in nonfiction. Tracy K. Smith served as U.S. poet laureate from 2017-19 and teaches at Princeton University. It was no longer important or necessary, and I wanted to just listen to these fragments within this founding document, and feel the sort of startled andI dont know, just a sense of inevitability that those statements kind of gathered around themselves. Onto the darkening dusk. Moreover, my sense of the nearness of the pastthe way that our public grappling with race and racial prejudice has begun to feel so much like a throwback from an earlier timeignited the urgent wish to hear something in an earlier periods voices that might be useful at this moment in the 21st Century.The title Wade in the Water comes from an African American spiritual, which seems apt for a collection that thinks so much about faith, race, and history (especially the Civil War), and for a poet whose previous book took its name from a song, too. The story of that poem is that it woke me up one night. For instance, an entire found poem (Smiths term) called Watershed comprises narratives of near-death experience juxtaposed with fragments from a New York Times story about a DuPont chemical disaster that poisoned an entire Ohio community. Tracy K. Smith: Yeah, the sense of dark possibility rose to the surface. The point of capitalism is to get more capital, which allows you to either procure stuff (things or experiences) or just hoard the lucre, deriving a weird pleasure from that. But the point of material restitution isnt to create new hoards of capital or to employ it in fresh exploitative ventures; rather, the money these people are owed for their service to what was once a Republic is a form of human acknowledgement, a way of saying that their lives mattered. destroyed the lives of our A sense of regret that I hadnt perhaps actively articulated to myself found a way into the poem. 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